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Hey- if Obama loses, it's your fault.

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 07:53:27 AM PDT

I'm talking to all of you people who sit on your asses, bitching about how luke-warm the Obama campaign is, how it's not going negative enough, it's not refuting enough, it's not active enough. And then you just sit on your asses and keep bitching.

Poll

What are you going to do with your franchise?

2%1 votes
7%3 votes
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2%1 votes
7%3 votes
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| 42 votes | Vote | Results

President Bush has gone missing

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 06:30:21 AM PDT

Where is President Bush?

Look, I wish we never had to see him again. Hell, I can't stand the man. But finding The President in a news report about the campaign or in a campaign commercial recently has been like playing Where's Waldo? It's that absence at this critical hour that's pissing me off.

Watching the general election campaign so far, you'd think the incumbent Republican President didn't have a 30% approval rating. You'd think he wasn't reviled by over 50% of the American public. That's because John McCain is hiding the President and Barack Obama is letting him.

That needs to end. It needs to end now.

Poll

Obama is using Bush

0%0 votes
96%76 votes
3%3 votes

| 79 votes | Vote | Results

Reuters Poll: McCain with 5 point lead!

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 05:31:44 AM PDT

Reuters is reporting that McCain now has a five point lead over Obama.  Like all polls, this one is just a data point, and people should not get too high or low over any one poll.

In a sharp turnaround, Republican John McCain has opened a 5-point lead on Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race and is seen as a stronger manager of the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

McCain leads Obama among likely U.S. voters by 46 percent to 41 percent, wiping out Obama's solid 7-point advantage in July and taking his first lead in the monthly Reuters/Zogby poll.

Poll shows McCain in 5-point lead over Obama

More, after the fold.

Did Obama pull a Colbert?

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 05:07:31 AM PDT

One more round on the Church thing--but perhaps from another angle.  Pardon me if this thought has been posted before, but I haven't seen it.

As far as the Saddleback thing goes, couldn't Obama have pulled a Stephen Colbert/Press Club thing that night?

By that I mean, while McCain was speaking to the audience in front of him and ignoring the fact that the nation was watching, Obama was speaking to all of us.

Why isn't this obvious choice for VP ever mentioned?

Wed Aug 20, 2008 at 04:49:39 AM PDT

Howard Dean.

I mean, this guy ran for president 4 years ago and came darn close to winning the nomination.  I'd even say that if he were the nominee instead of Kerry, we might be running a re-election campaign for him this year.  I think he could have beaten Bush.

Here are all the reasons why he would be a great choice:

Poll

Howard Dean as VP

51%94 votes
24%45 votes
15%29 votes
7%14 votes

| 182 votes | Vote | Results

John McCain: The Man Without Shame

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:59:11 PM PDT

"We cannot forever hide the truth about ourselves, from ourselves."
-Fictional Maverick John McCain

Sooner or later, the day comes when you can't hide from the things that you've done anymore.
-Fictional Character William Adama, Battlestar Galctica

I'm through with it.  I'm sick of listening to, as one diarist referred to it, The Legend of John McCain.  And because I am sick of it, because forcing myself to watch his zombie base mindlessly applaud his pandering, talking points performance at Rick Warren's bloated, ego driven Christianity for Happy and Bigoted Capitalists Forum unsettled me for the last three days, I am going to rant and attack.

Poll

John McCain is.....

25%4 votes
12%2 votes
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0%0 votes
18%3 votes
12%2 votes
6%1 votes

| 16 votes | Vote | Results

URGENT: Obama quit calling McCain a hero

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:53:27 PM PDT

All throughout the end of the primary season when it looked like Obama was headed
into  battle with John McCain, he would magnanimously say that "John McCain is a
genuine American hero, and I respect his service but..."  The first time was OK, but he says it every time he makes a campaign appearance.  He must stop this now!

Norm Coleman push polling

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:33:03 PM PDT

Dear Kossacks,

The politics season is truly upon us when we begin hearing that Republicans are push-polling.  Remember that push-polls are different that testing messages.  Message tests tend to be long polls, sometimes with nasty questions.  They are designed to judge your reactions.  Push polls are short and obviously far from factual.  They are intended to push people buttons on wedge issues or push vile rumors into circulation.

Tonight, we have the first evidence that the Norm Coleman campaign has started push polling ...

"McCain wasn't tortured" = Swiftboating

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:22:00 PM PDT

It should be noted from the outset that this diary is not moralistic--it is not cut from a we're-above-this-type-of-ugly-campaigning cloth. But this diary also is not a case for a new, Democratic Swiftboating campaign to be waged against McCain.

Instead, what follows is a brief exploration of how, in both substance and form, the "McCain wasn't tortured" line mirrors almost perfectly the attacks waged against Kerry in 2004.

Whether it's an attack strategy that WE should use is up to the masses, or Obama, or both. (Or some rogue 527.)

McCain suffers from PTSD---medical records will prove it.

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:20:47 PM PDT

McCain says because he survived 5½ years of brutal torture, while a prisoner of the communist Vietnamese, he is better qualified to be president of the United States than any other candidate. McCain claims his POW sufferings included three years in solitary confinement where he was tortured so badly that he "broke," causing him to attempt suicide.

Twenty-Two Children Write & Sing for Obama in Venice

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:00:05 PM PDT

The video and story below chronicle a recent Sunday afternoon in Venice, California, when 22 children, ages 5-12, gathered to sing original songs in the belief that their singing would lift up our communities and the Obama campaign for the coming election.  This was a grassroots deal from the start, but thanks to unexpected assistance from parents and then top film production folks in LA, the performances are captured for all time.
 
The video was just finished and uploaded to YouTube earlier this evening, and as one of the video’s two grips-for-the-day, I’m especially proud to present it to Daily Kos first:

Here’s the Sing for Change performance:

http://www.youtube.com/...

Presidential Polls

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 06:46:19 PM PDT

As we stand on the eve of the real election season, two new national polls today (LA Times/Bloomberg and Q-poll) along with the daily trackers (Rasmussen and Gallup) continue to show a tight race with a small Obama lead.

LA Times/Bloomberg
Registered Voters (June) MoE +/- 3
Obama  45 (49)
McCain 43 (37)

This poll shows the most movement, with the last polling in June.

The latest Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll shows that Obama, the first black major-party nominee, may have defused the issue of race, particularly among independents who will form a crucial voting bloc in the November election...

The deteriorating economy and rising energy costs "have been major issues for so long and voters blame the Republicans and George Bush for the problems," says Susan Pinkus, the Los Angeles Times polling director. Still, Pinkus says, McCain has benefited from voters' concerns about Obama's experience and ability to handle an international crisis.

Note that when this poll had Obama up by 12 in June, it was dismissed as an outlier along with the equally volatile Newsweek poll. Today's numbers are consistent what other polls show (see rest of post.) According to the news article, Obama still benefits from increased D enthusiasm. The LA Times version speculates on McCain negative attacks because Obama's fav/unfav now resemble McCain's. OTOH,

The poll found that McCain, long an unpopular figure among conservatives, has had more success than Obama in rallying his party's base. Nine out of 10 Republicans favor McCain, while just under 8 in 10 Democrats support Obama.

But independents, who could wind up deciding the election, favor Obama, 47% to 36%.

And Obama's backers are more enthusiastic than McCain's, suggesting that the Democrat holds greater potential for a strong turnout of supporters. The poll found that 78% of Obama's supporters were enthusiastic about his candidacy; 61% of McCain's backers felt that way.

Bottom line is that, like in other polls, the GOP base has consolidated while the Dem base, while more enthusiastic, has not. Obama has room to move up, but it'll take work to get there. And then there are the conventions, which, based on these numbers, come at the right time for Obama. How much upward room there is for McCain remains unclear, based on what is a poor showing amongst indies (Obama favored by 11) and the stated 9 in 10 GOP voters picking McCain. In all the polls, base support is a major difference between the candidates, though I haven't seen the cross-tabs or the exact figures (or the party ID numbers, for that matter.) But if indies favor Obama by that much, he's in decent shape.

Quinnipiac
Likely Voters  (July) MoE +/- 2.5

Obama   47  (50)
McCain  42  (37)

Notes:

In the presidential matchup, McCain leads 46 - 41 percent among men, up from 47 - 44 percent July 15, and 48 - 40 percent among white voters, compared to 49 - 42 percent last month. He also leads 65 - 25 percent among white Evangelical Christians, up from 61 - 29 percent.

But Obama leads 53 - 39 percent among women, compared to 55 - 36 percent last month, and 94 - 4 percent among black voters. The Democrat leads 55 - 36 percent among voters 18 to 34 years old, compared to 63 - 31 percent last month. Obama's strength among voters 35 to 54 is up from 48 - 44 percent to 49 - 41 percent. McCain leads 47 - 40 percent among voters over 55, compared to a 45 - 44 percent split July 15.

Independent voters shift from a 44 - 44 percent split to a 45 - 39 percent Democratic tilt.

"The poll underlines Sen. Barack Obama's strengths and weaknesses. Strengths: He leads overall and he's strong with women, even stronger among young folks and astronomically strong with blacks. Weaknesses: Sen. John McCain beats him among white voters, men, older folks and white Catholics," said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

Also, theGallup tracker has Obama 45 and McCain 44 (RV) while Rasmussen has Obama 47, McCain 45 (LV, with leaners).

With the VP choices and conventions about to start, the polls reflect the state of the race as of now. As of now, Obama as a tightening but small lead. And as of now is about to change. Maybe McCain will figure out how to get above 44% (or, for a change, lead.) Maybe Obama will finish consolidating wavering Dems and shore up his standing with the senior set.

We shall see in the next two weeks. Since polling over Labor Day is tough, the first helpful polls will be right after that. But if you want to look at historical VP bounces while you await the VP choices, try this recent post by Mark Blumenthal.

The question I'd love to see McCain asked

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 06:44:51 PM PDT

Just a quick thought, based on what's now old news but McCain did bring it up again Saturday - the idea that he "knows how to win wars".

Here's what I'd ask McCain if he ever held a town hall on Long Island (HAH!) and I managed to get hold of the mike:

Sen. McCain, you graduated in the bottom 1 percentile of your class at Annapolis. In training, you crashed 3 planes. You never held a command position in the Navy, and your only combat experience was in a war we lost. How do you know how to win wars, and what's the secret?

In followup, I'd also like ask if he'd shared with the current President his ideas on how to catch Bin Laden, and (A) if not, why not, (B) why he was unable to persuade Bush to execute his masterplan, or (C) why the plan failed.

Countdown with Keith Olbermann - August 19, 2008

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 06:10:35 PM PDT

Here's another "This Date in History" "gem"; on this date in 1909, the first auto race was held at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Ever since then, my "beloved" state has been known for corn & racing. That's a hell of a legacy, ain't it?!

If you're like me these days, you could use a laugh (or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or infinity). On NPR today, Terri Gross replayed an interview she did with Mort Sahl in 2003; I laughed long, and I laughed hard (yea...yea...yea...get your minds out of the gutter; there's only room for me). Her shows are available as PodCasts, so if you have the means & the access to a nearby intertubes machine, I highly recommend you download it.

So, is it Election Day yet?!

Let's count down with our Countdown gang!

Congressional Candidates: Southern Edition

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 05:38:37 PM PDT

The south is known as a Republican stronghold in the last few years after long Democratic traditions, and Democrats are once again standing up to fight for the South. NC and VA are springing up to be swing-states, and Democrats are fighting all over the South for House and Senate seats.

5 p.m. PDT Daily Open Obama V.P. Thread #72: New Series Round Seven (w/poll)

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 05:00:25 PM PDT

Welcome back for more speculation! Today continues the new final series of possibilities for Obama's v.p.

This series began with a new top 14 list of names I considered most likely to be named Obama's v.p. running mate, and we'll eliminate the bottom vote-getter each day until there is a winner, or a real-life winner is named by Obama. Starting today, candidates will be listed in order of votes from the previous poll, from most to least, so we'll have some idea of preference in this thread's voting should Obama decide before there is a series winner. Sens. Evan Bayh (IN) and Jack Reed (RI) were eliminated in the previous round.

Please discuss any v.p. candidates in the comments. The most correct format would be to state their name, unless you have further comments. I'm happy to hear all ideas in this open thread, and I'm no official gatekeeper, so play nice.

(continued below the fold)

Poll

Who should be Barack Obama's vice presidential running mate?

33%69 votes
17%36 votes
16%34 votes
11%24 votes
11%24 votes
3%8 votes
3%8 votes

| 203 votes | Vote | Results

We must use all power available against this RNC propaganda

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 04:36:24 PM PDT

We must use all power available to take out this terrible piece of propaganda from YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/...

Only fools will believe Barrack Obama has no respect for life. What about John McCain killing innocent women and children from 15,000 feet in Vietnam? How many innocent people is he responsible for killing? McCain is a murderer and war criminal.

John McCain, Indian Agent (Repost)

Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:35:43 PM PDT

Source

The justification for Public Law 93-531 passed by Congress in 1974 was that the Navajo-Hopi land dispute is so serious that 10,000 Navajos near Big Mountain, Arizona, must be relocated, forcibly if necessary. It would be the largest forced relocation of U.S. citizens since the relocation of Japanese-Americans during World War II.

But tradition-minded Navajo and Hopi claim there never was a land dispute. They say the dispute was invented to get the Navajos and their livestock off mineral-rich land in the Hopi reservation so it could be developed by mining companies such as Peabody Coal and Kerr-McGee.


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